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Oral history interview with John Ellis, conducted and recorded by Frank Paterson at the National Railway Museum, York on 26 February 2019. Duration: 3 hr. 5 min. 35 sec. Career overview; General Manager British Rail: Scottish Region; sectorisation; Strathclyde Passenger Transport Executive (SPTE); General Manager British Rail: Southern Region; Chris Jago; Michael Holden; no adverse trade union reactions to sectorisation; transition; Dick Fearn; Deputy Director Network SouthEast (NSE); Deputy Director InterCity; sleeper services withdrawal; Jimmy Knapp; John Prideaux; Chris Green; Ivor Warburton; InterCity broken up; Chris Green letter from John McGregor (Secretary of State for Transport); move to Railtrack Production Director; John Edmonds not involved organisational structure; Joint Industry Combined Track Access Regime (JICTAR); Chris Stokes; performance regime; relationships; Chris Leah; Chris Jago; Martin Shrubshole; signalling strike; JICTAR; development of delay attribution principles and track access charges; track condition register absence; delay attribution disadvantageous to Railtrack; Tom Winsor; tight timescales; John Edmonds; separation of track from trains; relationship between Railtrack and train operating companies (TOCs); signalling strike; Managing Director Scotrail; politics; SPTE; Service Quality Incentive Regime (SQUIRE) regime; Malcolm Reed; management buyout team (MBO) team; workload; Paul King; National Express won franchise; savings not realized; John Edmonds management style

John Ellis interviewed by Frank Paterson

Oral Histories


Oral history interview with Mike Etwell, conducted and recorded by Michael Robson in Berkshire on 12 February 2020. Duration: 2 hr. 5 min. 23 sec. Career overview; Class 59 development; Class 60 development; Class 92 development; European Passenger Services (EPS); meetings with Nationale Maatschappij der Belgische Spoorwegen/Société nationale des chemins de fer belges (NMBS/SNCB); further development of Class 59; technical requirements; Class 60; Class 37; noise issues; car-carrying wagon development for Channel Tunnel; Euro Night Sleepers; Class 92 at Velim Test track; CLAs 92 technical requirements; Channel Tunnel usage agreement; loading gauge; Class 373/TransManche Super Train (TMST); vision and requirements for EPS services; North Pole International depot; EPS staff development; North Pole depot; EPS Language Training Centre; financing of European Night Stock 1992; setting-up of European Night Services; operation requirements; EPS change to Eurostar; North Pole opening; Waterloo International; Plant Support Doncaster; Class 37; test running; trainsets leased to Great North Eastern Railway (GNER); Eurostar developing as rolling stock company (ROSCO); Class 92 for freight use; Eurostat train evacuation tests; North Pole International Depot facilities; Eurostar train commissioning; press visit; staff development; Manchester Depot; London and Continental Railways (LCR) set-up 1994; Channel Tunnel Rail Link (CTRL); EPS move to LCR; senior management re-organisation; production management; passenger growth; contracts; Institute of Mechanical Engineers (IMECHE)

Mike Etwell interviewed by Michael Robson

Oral Histories


Oral history interview with Gordon Dudman, conducted and recorded by Frank Paterson at the National Railway Museum, York on 29 April 2019. Duration: 2 hr. 58 min. 3 sec. Early career; Area Parcels Manager Brighton; Parcels Manager Waterloo; trade unions; Red Star Manager South West; preparation for privatisation; Purley accident; Adrian Shooter; reducing overheads; contracts; Total Quality project; Auditing processes to maintain standards; private sale not progressed; Rail Express Services changed approach; management buyout (MBO) team; sale to Lynx; Red Star Timetable; freight re-organisation rejected by government 1992; safety; making privatisation work despite reservations over structure; Wisconsin Central purchase; Royal Train; MBO irregularities; track access agreement; freight access agreements based initially on existing arrangements; Peter Kirk (civil servant); joined Privatisation Group 1996; 10 schedules in track access agreements; Access Implementation Group (AIG); Schedule 4 difficulties; Railtrack; privatisation team processes; AIG meetings; Schedule 8 performance regimes; ScotRail; business groups identified; Operational Research (OR) algorithms to determine revenue values; performance standards for delays and cancellations; Trains Running System TOPS - Total Operations Processing System (Trust) performance monitoring; calculation of value per minute; Railtrack difficulties in reaching performance targets; failure to encourage Railtrack improvements; Network Code Part 3 Network Change; Leeds re-signalling; impact on personal life; Schedule 8 Central Trains; Railtrack attitude; unintended consequences of monitoring points; John Welsby/ Brian Mawhinney discussion; Schedule 4 ongoing issues; working at Railtrack; Tom Winsor; Office of the Rail Regulator; arbitration; reflections

Gordon Dudman interviewed by Frank Paterson

Oral Histories


Oral history interview with David Wharton-Street, conducted and recorded by Michael Lee at the interviewer's home in Hertfordshire on 28 June 2019. Duration: 3 hr. 38 min. 43 sec. Early career; Acting Director Regional Railways North East (RRNE) 1990; British Railways Board Safety Department 1993; Safety & Standards Department; Railtrack secondment 1994; sectorisation; proposed closure of Settle & Carlisle line 1993; DalesRail trains deal; Friends of Settle & Carlisle; management of Settle & Carlisle route; Operational Research Computerised Allocation of Tickets to Service (ORCATS); Accountancy and Passenger Ticket Issuing System (APTIS); Portable Operated Ticket Issuing System (PORTIS); Class 47; Class 15x Sprinters; Ribblehead Viaduct repair; closure process; infrastructure maintenance issues; Hellifield signalbox; Serpell Report; Bob Reid 1; Jim O’Brien; Settle & Carlisle put up for sale; West Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive (WYPTE); closure situation overview development of ORCATS; Computer Analysis of Passenger Revenue Information System (CAPRI); Monopolies & Mergers Commission (M&MC); Profit Planning & Cost Centre Analysis (PP&CCA); Accounting and Expenditure Information System (AXIS); development of Sector Accounting and Monitoring System (SPAMS); Local Vehicle Record System (LOVERS); Rail Vehicle Record System (RAVERS); sectorisation and structural change; Frank Paterson; David Rayner; RRNE management team; Mark Causebrook; David Prescott; Charles Devereux; Don Jary; RRNE after Organising for Quality (OfQ); Track Access Development Team; electrification; track cost allocation; financial penalties; prime user; costing; privatisation and timescales; safety; Safety Critical Staff Protocol

David Wharton-Street interviewed by Michael Lee

Oral Histories


Oral history interview with Hugh Fenwick, conducted and recorded by David Wharton-Street at the interviewee's home in North Yorkshire on 1 May 2018. Duration: 2 hr. 4 min. 42 sec. Early career; British Rail Civil Engineering Training Scheme; delegated responsibility and authority; secondment to Doncaster District Engineer 1977; development of Concrete Bridge Design (CBDES) computer programme; designing route for Selby Diversion; land purchase; Resident Engineer for Selby Diversion 1980; Outside Parties Bridge Section Regional Civil Engineer’s Office York 1984; ambitions; role and responsibilities of Works Engineer; East Coast Main Line (ECML) electrification; Organising for Quality (OfQ); changes due to sectorisation; Drawing Office Planning and Control System (DOPACS); renaming of Design Department to York Engineering Services (YES); Self-Accounting Unit (SAU); Leadership 5000; Quality Accreditation BS5750; transfer of civil engineering staff to sectors 1991-1992; employment of consultants; Total Business Management (TBM); re-organisation; realignment of YES; new industry structure; profits made from contracts with sectors; computer aided design (CAD); reporting lines; AD Little consultants; reaction of British Rail Infrastructure Services (BRIS); consideration of management buyout (MBO); working with Railtrack; British Rail Vendor Unit; becoming a limited company; Civil Engineering Design Group (CEDG) Ltd.; British Steel as owners of CEDG; Managing Director British Steel CEDG; success; bids; role; reflections on privatisation process; sectorisation; effects of privatisation; Railtrack/Network Rail issues; vertical integration; effect on personal life

Hugh Fenwick interviewed by David Wharton-Street

Oral Histories


Oral history interview with Prof. Roderick Muttram, conducted and recorded by David Maidment in the Fellows Room, Royal Academy of Engineering, Westminster, London on 6 March 2019. Duration: 1 hr. 20 min. 57 sec. Early career; Atomic Energy Authority; Chloride; Ferranti Instrumentation; headhunted for Railtrack 1993; Bob Reid; John Edmonds; solid state interlocking (SSI); Institute of Railway Signal Engineers (IRSE); Clapham accident; sale of British Rail Research; post-Clapham consequences; British Rail Infrastructure Systems (BRIS) privatised; promotion of competition; privatisation of Railtrack 1996; Tom Winsor (Rail Regulator) new access rules; problems with West Coast Main Line (WCML) upgrade; Train Control System (TCS); shadowing David Rayner; Automatic Train Protection (ATP) systems; Clapham and Purley accidents; investigations into signals passed at danger (SPADS); Train Protection & Warning System (TPWS); signals passed at danger reduction and mitigation (SPADRAM); driver reminder appliance (DRA); development of TPWS; implementation of TPWS; European Train Control Systems (ETCS); Southall accident 1997; Ladbroke Grove accident 1999; safety cases; Richard Spoors; Ladbroke Grove signalling; European Rail Train Monitoring System (ERTMS); role of privatisation in Hatfield accident; response to Hatfield; train protection systems; Safety Integrity Levels (SILs); IEC 61508 Functional Safety of Electrical/Electronic/Programmable Electronic Safety-related Systems; Confidential Incident Reporting and Action System (CIRAS); Railway Safety and Standards Board (RSSB); Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB); Railtrack focus on safety; departure from Railtrack Group; RSSB; doubts about RSSB model; driver only operation (DOO)

Prof. Roderick Muttram interviewed by David Maidment

Oral Histories


Oral history interview with Graham Eccles, conducted and recorded by Mike Hodson in East Sussex on 17 April 2018. Duration: 1 hr. 42 min. 43 sec. Early career; Margaret Thatcher delay meeting; mentored by Gordon Pettitt; sectorisation; Chris Green; John Prideaux; General Manager of Southern Region and Anglia Region; privatisation model; London, Tilbury & Southend ticket fraud; South Central sale; John Welsby; bus companies prior experience of privatisation; Peter Field at South Western partnership with Compagnie Generale des Eaux (CGE) (Connex); Brian Souter; Stagecoach; Connex; privatisation model seen as flawed; separation of track and trains; reflections on Stagecoach; acquisition of Porterbrook rolling stock company (ROSCO); appointment of Geoff Mee; leading Stagecoach bids for subsequent franchises; Island Line; South West Trains (SWT); Operations Director SWT; driver shortage; Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen (ASLEF) exploit industry structure to increase pay; profits driven by passenger numbers; Chief Operating Officer Rail Stagecoach Group; Non-Executive Director Network Rail; acquisition of Porterbrook; ROSCOs successfully privatised; fares innovation; unaligned objectives and directions; separation of track and trains remains unresolved; advising on the 2005 Transport Act; working at No.10 Downing Street Delivery Unit; Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC); quality of management; improvements in South West Trains; measuring success; facilitating change to Network Rail; rail privatisation overseas

Graham Eccles interviewed by Mike Hodson

Oral Histories