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Oral history interview with Glynn Waite conducted and recorded by Bob Gwynne on 22 September 2017 at the National Railway Museum. Duration: 2 hours 9 minutes 25 seconds. [Start of interview, 00:00:00] Joining British Rail 1960, Trains Office Derby, diagramming, train staff planning, special trains; [00:04:30] area covered, freight timetable, Derby to Barnt Green, Hornsbridge at Chesterfield; Birmingham, freight traffic analysis, wagon surveys; changes, introduction of diesels working ‘out and home’; [00:09:00] line occupation surveys; diagramming journeys and staff; [00:10:30] different jobs before being involved with TOPS; TOPS at Cardiff, start with Ebbw Vale cutover, TOPS in South Wales; [00:16:43] problem with Cardiff Tidal/East Maws works; use of Ventek terminals, issues, wagon surveys, [00:20:49] missing wagons, ‘Cripple roads’, loading wagon data into TOPS; [00:24:32] TOPS survey staff, cutover process, working hours; [00:29:25] impact of TOPS on Area Managers, attempts at economies, TOPS helping reduce amount of wagons and introduce air braked wagons; [00:35:26] TOPS and locomotive maintenance on Western Region; [00:42:39]economies, elimination of consignment notes, survey, traffic flow introduction of numbers for clients, economies on clerks and paper; [00:47:47] goods offices rationalisation, reduction in sidings, new methods of working enabling savings; [00:49:30] job at Speedlink 1984-1990; [00:50:21] TOPS moving into privatisation, non geographic allocation of reporting offices; [00:54:40] planning redundancy but kept on to work out how to affect the move away from geographic location; [00:57:36] TOPS 2000 introduction, link with privatisation; division within privatised freight network, change to Windows operating system; [01:02:23] TOPS 2000 implementation, TOPS offices for BR mainline; TOPS responsibility area (TRA), capacity limits and rationalisation, Worcester TOPS office closure, further rationalisation; [01:07:08] reason for TOPS office locations, marshalling yards, reasons for rationalisation and TOPS staff redeployment; [01:11:47] TOPS clerks, recruitment and grades; [01:14:40] Freightliner, coal/cement, links to TOPS; difference between TRUST and TOPS; [01:17:01] TRUST and LARTA, geolocated train departures; how to put in a new location [01:21:50] locations for companies; wagon load, marshalling yards, train loads rather than individual wagons; [01:25:07] merry-go-round system (MGR), automation, including wagon numbers and weights, MGR wagons kept in trains; Toton, only two roads on down-side, wagon weight limitation at some collieries, MGR wagons revolution; [01:30:17] TOPS 2000, more people understand the system, area managers and shunters can input TOPS; TOPS direct (Eric Straw), Wolverhampton Steel Terminal, training on using TOPS, including Masboro Control; [01:35:10] EWS move; cut over Swansea Borough, Newport 1974, returned 20 years later to cutover to shunters; removal of Rowntrees traffic, closure of Dringhouses yard, closing yards, Parkeston; reflection on railways during time of career, sectorisation hierarchy, Bury St Edmonds example, Peterborough-Grantham, division of payments in pre-privatisation era; [01:43:04] sectorisation process, new thinking, cost of running railway has increased, GNER causes wage inflation with drivers, causing train cancellations elsewhere;[01:49:02] career overview, lodging at Railway Hostel, Loco hostels, redundancy, WR change, traffic analysis, Rowsley, Derby, Crewe, Nantwich, Bridgend, Sheffield, TOPS implementation, Speedlink, RFD, Manchester, Islington; EWS attempts to replace TOPS; Freightliner poached Glynn from EWS with traffic; [02:01:20] work as a consultant sorting out new freight flows, sectorisation, end of Speedlink, lack of knowledge; Michael Portillo, every freight flow had to make 8.5% return on assets; [02:06:50], privatisation, increasing distance of freight flows [02:09:25] [end of interview]

Glynn Waite interviewed by Bob Gwynne

2017-09-18

Oral history interview with Philip (Phil) Graham conducted and recorded by Frank Paterson on 8 March 2016 (session 1) at the National Railway Museum in York. Duration: 2 hours 16 minutes. [Track 01] Career start; childhood, interest in signalling; [00:06:00] homelessness, Hunts Bank station; [00:10:00] leading railwayman, transfer to booking clerk, pay comparison; [00:13:00] 12 hours working day, overtime; Runcorn; [00:15:00] clerical duties; relief clerk, Liverpool Lime Street, duties, pay checks; Birkenhead maintenance staff; staff free tickets; [00:20:00] Area Manager (Gordon Fox), mentor; British Rail management training scheme; grade A supervisor; train register books, timekeeping policy, justifying delays; [00:23:10] supervising grades, relief supervisor duties; carriage cleaning supervisor, Downhill carriage sidings, staff turnover, gender work differences; [00:27:00] Mark 1 carriages, destinations, sleeping cars; [00:30:00] night shift; pit road examination; [00:33:00] management lessons learned, carriage cleaners; [00:35:00] yard supervisor, Canada Dock, wagon load traffic, import, morning/evening trips from Garston, private siding; [00:38:00] 350 diesel shunter; restricted driver allocation; [00:42:00] grade B supervisor, Edgehill carriage sidings; derailment hand worked points; steam heating vans on electrified stock; [00:46:00] Apollo 19 runaway; [00:49:00] 08 shunter and class 86 collision, inquiries; [00:51:00] management training scheme, Stoke Division, NEBSS certification; [00:53:00] meeting Les Holding, Shrewsbury Area Manager, extent of Shrewsbury area, comments on Welsh branch, trust in workers, economies; [01:00:00] Cambrian coast difficulties, track conditions, late running; [01:02:00] Chester signal boxes, attitudes to divisional functions; end of training, supervisor grade C at Shrewsbury, report to Area Operations Manager; supervisor duties, staff supervised, carriage cleaning capacity [01:08:36] [end of track 01] [Track 02] supervisor at Shrewsbury, rules and regulations exam, Great Western rules; [00:04:00] move to Liverpool, promotion grade D supervisor, relief supervisor at Edgehill; job applications; career plan, personal choices; role of regulator, absolute block signalling; [00:10:20] March 1983, Traffic Manager Chester, responsibilities, 7 signal boxes, stations on North Wales coast; issues with staffing, run down of mechanical power boxes, 1984 introduction Chester Power; [00:15:00] night shift, filling-in to open unstaffed Chester Number 5 signal box; [00:17:45] enjoyment in traffic management jobs; Wrexham cash retention safe, wages paid cash, checking train account book; [00:21:20] 1986 job change, closed listing jobs, vacancy system; Traffic Manager Hull application, area and responsibilities; manually operated level crossings, Scarborough line, weekly issues on Bridlington to Hull, timekeeping; [00:27:15] automatic open level crossings, accidents, Lockington accident, fatalities ; [00:32:05] change in level crossings, AOCL (automatic open crossing locally monitored) and AOCR (automatic open crossing remotely monitored), comparison with Europe, modern level crossing technologies, obstacle detector, CCTV; [00:38:30] comparison London Midland and Eastern Regions, signal box design; chairing LDC meetings, 1985 carriage cleaners no longer working on Sundays, NUR advert Hull Daily Mail, BBC, ITV news; [00:44:30] NRM 10th anniversary, documentary; [00:45:25] miners’ strike, impact on railways; [00:49:05] Goole Docks activities, import; Goole Swing Bridge, planned closure prevented by refurbishment, accident [00:57:25] Birmingham Assistant to Operations Manager (Ian Gibson), passenger services, New Street station, extent of area, responsibilities; [01:02:10] mobility for work, renting or buying property, British Rail’s support, disturbance allowances; [01:04:30] Bentley Heath DMU fire; on call arrangements [01:07:41] [end of track 02] [end of session 1]

Philip Graham interviewed by Frank Paterson (session 1 of 2)

2016-03-08

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