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Oral history interview with Ray Goad recorded and conducted by Robert Aitchison on 7 May 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 42 minutes 25 seconds. Left school at 15, apprentice welder at Shildon Railway Works, working conditions, night school, wagons, wages, [00:02:00] axle box plant, working day; informal training, details of production line; [00:04:00] office boy, wages office, tricks played by workers, wages; [00:06:00] night school; apprentice pattern maker, working conditions, details of pattern making; [00:10:00] wagons works, repair of wooden-sided wagons, details of work carried out, patterns, plaster of Paris, steel cavity, ‘monkey tails’, woodworking; [00:14:00] banana vans, fish vans, guard vans weighted for braking, underframe and wheels made at Shildon, wooden sides made at Darlington; [00:17:00] wages; tools, cement wagons; [00:20:00] inter-department cricket; day release and Higher National Certificate (HNC) qualification, procedure for attendance at college; [00:22:00] castings in Press Shop, brake van stoves, LMS design, producing LMS patterns, patterns store, coke wagons; NUR strike 1955; ‘monkey tail’ forging; [00:26:00] apprenticeship in drawing office experience; [00:28:00] noise in works, Health & Safety, poor conditions, forge, welding, welding brackets for containers; fire in repair shop and Works fire engine; [00:32:00] father witnessed a death; 1957 introduction of clocking in and out machine; [00:34:00] details on apprenticeship, trainee draughtsman, production details for coke wagons; [00:36:00] 1958 leaving Shildon Works, National Service; return from National Service, no job at Shildon, trainee draughtsman at Darlington Locomotive Works; [00:40:00] lived in Shildon, Darlington, York; Inspector of Materials for British Rail; Shildon works closure, worry for father’s job [00:42:25] [end of interview]

Ray Goad interviewed by Robert Aitchison

2004-05-07

Oral history interview with Eric Brass (session 1 of 2) conducted by Robert Aitchison on 25 February 2004 as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Original duration: 41 minutes, however there are many distortions throughout the recording, resulting in 28 minutes of audible recording via the digital access file. Education, All Saints School (left 1948); career start, clothing factory, Shildon Works; served 2 years National Service, returned to works; following Shildon works closure stayed for 8 years with new owners until aged 60 years; [00:01:00] apprentice fitter, new wagons, repair side, promotion, jig and tool work, charge hand for drilling machines; [00:02:00] after Works closure, company who took over the Works until final closure; impact of Shildon Works closure, personal impact, devastated although still had a job, impact on town, hard times for the town, some younger men transferred, loss of small businesses; [00:03:20] working conditions, improved as times went by, forge example; Works stories; relationships, friendly, managers; protest march against closure in Thatcher era, Works was closed even though they were the best, reduction in Union power, bitterness, closure spoilt lifetime of working at the Works; [00:06:20] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, on duty, great event, thousands of people; living in Shildon; hard times at start of War, parents ensured family had sufficient food, post War “boom” time at Works, family members at the Works; list of shops in Shildon, picture houses; [00:09:20] population of Shildon, decreased a few thousands since closure, during “boom” time every family had some connection to Works; Shildon Works, where it was, office building site, biggest sidings; [00:11:10] personal views on new museum, good, questions longevity of museum and visitor target numbers; importance of Shildon Works, valued in near area, men employed from wide area, good comradeship, views of Darlington railway works workers; [00:13:00] memories of first museum, visited in early days, housed in “boxing” family's house, visited with father from 5-6 years old; personal views on politics of area and local people engagement with politics; [00:14:50] National Service, 1955-1957, armourer, glad to get it over; [00:15:40] employment at Shildon Works, example of how keen men were to work at the Works, comparison with other local workplaces; first wage, first job in the office delivering mail, little money when serving his time, followed father who was employed at the Works, pride in products; [00:18:00] Merry-go-round wagons, local haulage firm involvement, good local firm involvement, other product production; [00:19:30] Shildon works, further details, maximum of two and a half thousand men, caused town population increase, best times 1960’s and 1970’s, closure 1984, unclear why closure occurred, overseas competition; [00:22:20] Second World War, women worked, Italian prisoners of war, 5 years old when War started; scalding accident, hospital treatment; interview interrupted [00:28:05] [end of interview]

Eric Brass interviewed by Robert Aitchison (session 1 of 2)

2004-02-25

Oral history interview with Garry Huntington, conducted and recorded by Jo Bath over two sessions in 24 and 25 February 2004, as part of the Time Track oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 2 hours 17 minutes. [Disc 1] Childhood, family background, parents and schooling; [00:03:55] starting work at Astraka fake fur factory, [00:05:05] early history of Astraka, its role in the development of fake fur, [00:08:27] breaking into the Russian market, [00:10:55] famous clients, [00:12:22] uniform, diversification and closure; Winter Olympics; [00:15:54] a working day, relationship with designers; [00:18:57] funny mistakes; customer service; making a horse blanket; [00:22:15] working as a trouble shooter and with catalogue companies; [00:24:50] early work in the stores, training and negotiation for better job; [00:28:21] work of the technical department; [00:29:24] lack of union activity or protest; [00:31:03] highs and lows; relations with the directors; [00:34:55] social and sports facilities; [00:37:25] various homes; [00:39:15] the canteen and the estate, damp problems; [00:42:20] staff discount; [00:44:25] career as a councillor, working in housing; [00:48:00] Recent elections and signs of recovery; move towards residential area; [00:53:45] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, cavalcade, love for steam trains; [01:00:00] Shildon railway works, workers coming out of the works, [01:03:51] works open days; [01:05:15] impact of the works closure in 1984, signs of recovery; [01:11:46] sports as a child, meeting his wife [01:14:59] [end of disc 1] [Disc 2] activities and leisure in Shildon, rock and roll, dancing, fashions and culture; [00:07:20] housing then and now, development; [00:11:24] making do, clippy mats; [00:14:00] New Shildon old shopping area; [00:15:40] open cast mining; [00:19:58] carnival, foot running, gambling and cheating; dressing up; [00:24:24] Shildon’s Banana factory, Geest; [00:28:09] the Dunns; [00:30:25] Shildon people, problems with private rents; [00:32:30] poverty as a child, neighbours arguing; [00:36:20] extreme weather, snow in 1947, flooding; [00:42:35] paste eggs, "jarping", holidays, working men's clubs; [00:49:16] the Railway Institute; [00:53:12] boxing, learning to box at Hackworth's workshop, watching fights [01:02:06] [end of disc 2] [end of interview]

Garry Huntington interviewed by Jo Bath

2004-02-24

Oral history interview with Maurice Peacock conducted and recorded by Jo Bath in 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 1 hour 15 minutes. Born 1917 in Shildon. Childhood; moved to Middlesbrough (1921), Middlesbrough High School; Shildon streets; father a coal miner (Dabble Duck Mine, Shildon), father moved to ICI Billingham; leaving school pre-exams to be an errand boy, brothers on dole, took exams, errand boy, shop manager; [00:03:10] joining Rochdale Police Force (1939); 9 years in Rochdale, periods in army and air force, married 1941, dislike of police work; [00:04:00] further career; ; return to Middlesbrough; general dealer’s shop (4-5 years), fish and chip shop, burnt out after one week, new equipment within a week, commercial traveller until retirement; [00:06:40] childhood, Growing up; father’s work as miner, coal seam under house, brothers farm workers, railway routes near Shildon, no family members became miners; [00:12:40] play location and games as a child in Shildon, goods yard play, friends, Timothy Hackworth School; [00:19:10] Shildon railway works, wagon works; [00:20:00] food in childhood, porridge; [00:21:10] Shildon area; leisure and activities in Shildon, Soho Shed used by band, museum visit, Sunday School, brass band visits, church on Sundays, played during week, groceries paid once a week, lot of shops, wet fish shop, played in recreation ground, lot of railway lines; [00:28:40] family life; first girlfriend 1937, married 1939, widowhood 1998, memories of wife, grandchildren, great grandchildren; [00:31:20] 1926 General Strike, the Great Depression; father and brothers out of work, reduction in amount of food, family memories, what people did during general strike, deaths of young siblings; [00:35:00] Shildon railway works visit, no desire to work in works; [00:36:10] interest in police work, Shildon policeman; [00:38:00] childhood, clothing, coal deliveries, coal house outside, toilets, wash house, washday, father’s miner’s clothes, watching the carnival, bicycle use, grocery deliveries, hand cart use; [00:46:10] agricultural show; showground, rabbits, pigeons; [00:47:30] extreme weather, winter, igloo building; [00:49:40] dinners during General Strike; Salvation Army, soup; [00:51:30] mines around Shildon; lots of pits; [00:52:20] electrified railway; few memories; [00:53:50] cinema, went now and then, “flea pit", not enjoyable, piano played pre-organ, first picture with talk seen in Middlesborough; [00:56:50] social classes in childhood, no issues, no bullying in school; [00:58:00] shoes in childhood; [00:59:00] food, always fresh food in house; [00:01:10] remedies, drugs, medication in childhood, cod liver oil; [01:02:40] favourite things to do; playing out, details, punishment if mis-behaved; [01:04:50] proggy mat making, helping mother; [01:07:10] tricks on neighbours; doorknob tying; [01:08:00] street play; hoop rolling, marbles; [01:10:20] family support; relationship with brothers, sisters, sister’s work; [01:12:40] Army service; visit to London to see sister, army work in a US army camp [01:15:09] [end of interview]

Maurice Peacock interviewed by Jo Bath

2004

Oral history interview with Eddy Holmes conducted and recorded by Jo Bath in 2004 as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 1 hour 15 minutes. [Track 01] Childhood; moved Yorkshire to Shildon (1968), education, left school September 1946 [00:02:50] first job, telegram boy for 1 month, duties [00:04:07] [end of track 01]; [Track 02] starting work, telegram delivery, grocery job (10 months), reasons for leaving, British Rail (BR) Shildon Works (start August 1947) [00:02:40]; start career at Shildon railway works, office boy (Welding Shop office), machinist, training until 21 years [00:04:10]; move to Smith’s Shop, details of work [00:05:00]; move to Wheel’s Shop, grade 1 machining, details of work; move to Machine Profile Burning (1964); work there until Works closure 1984, Shildon BR “jewel in the crown”, details of wagon building, high-capacity wagon contract (1960’s) saved Shildon, details of high-capacity wagon operation, final 11 years as part-time finished work inspector [00:09:00]; normal working day, working hours; making couplings, drilling machines; salary, wages, piece work, details of different work, work pattern, shift work [00:14:40]; working atmosphere; socialising, holidaying together, good relationships, friendships [00:18:00]; health and safety, machine guards, incident, machine profile burning conditions, ambulance room, personal injury, works fire brigade [00:22:00]; working conditions, dirty work in machine profiling burning, clothing, heat produced [00:25:35]; likes/dislikes of job, relief finished work inspecting, reasons; clocking in/out system, least liked-line drilling, reasons [00:28:40]; cats at the Works, personal views [00:30:00]; Shildon Railway Institute, table tennis, snooker, competitions, talent contests [00:31:50]; singing experience in clubs; details of club work, Empire Theatre Middlesborough, other Shildon singers – Alan Fryatt, John Fryatt (organist), George Remain [00:37:00]; boxing in Shildon, good boxers at the Works, Sid Cottingham (machine burner), Ronny Cottingham, gymnasium at the Works [00:38:44] [end of track 02]; [Track 03] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, few memories, volunteering details, details of event, details of visitors, what was seen [00:03:20]1950 event, no memories [00:04:15]; Union membership, NUR, AEU, AEU shop steward, details of shop stewards and convenors [00:06:00]; works closure, 1982 demonstration to keep Works open, reason for demonstration, House of Commons visit, success at keeping Works open until 1984, politics linked to closure, gradual workforce decrease, low morale, protest involvement, meeting with MPs, blame for closure, questioning reasons for closure [00:12:00]; work after Works closure, machine profile burner at Shildon Forge, works committee, dismissal, disputing dismissal, colleagues support, good relationship with management [00:26:00]; further employment details, Cleveland Bridge at Darlington CN machine operator (9 years), retirement 1967 [00:27:55]; views of other Shildon works employees after closure, majority wanted another job, not a lot of other work, works reduced from 25000 men, some transferred elsewhere, hard for older employees, town has recovered from the closure [00:32:16] [end of Track 03] [end of interview]

Eddy Holmes interviewed by Jo Bath

2004

Oral history interview with Aubrey Clethero conducted and recorded by Jo Bath in 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 1 hour 17 minutes. Born 1928 in Shildon, childhood, education, first job at 14, tobacconist; office job at Shildon railway works, 1942, sorting and delivery mail; move to joiner’s shop, apprentice joiner; [00:03:50] career overview, leaving Shildon works, private joiner’s firm, work at Shildon Council, redundancy, joiner’s jobs at Darlington, Newton Aycliffe, Bishop Auckland, return to Shildon Council (1957), woodwork teacher at Cotton Hill School, Bishop Auckland, teaching evening classes in joinery, teaching qualification, Woodhouse Secondary Modern School for 24 years, retired at 55 years of age, now helps neighbours; [00:08:10] Father’s career, miner at Dabble Duck Mine, First World War soldier, milk business after war, during the Great Depression kept pigs and hens for sale, labourer at Shildon Works, various jobs until retired; [00:11:00] mother’s career, labourer at Shildon Works until son started at the Works, mother looked after house, livestock and allotment, work in axle box plant at the Works, previously worked as a dress maker, mother into the work to help the war effort in Second World War, war effort armament production; [00:16:20] further details of Father’s lorry work; photograph described, earth closet cleaning, rubbish disposal, use of clinker, coal man, ended at the Great Depression; [00:19:40] first day at Shildon works: aged 14 years, worked in general office, messenger boy duties, arrangements for carrying parcels; [00:22:50] extreme weather, hard winters, 1942 whilst working as apprentice, lost milk cart story; [00:24:00] childhood, mince pie story, black out activities; [00:27:50] Second World War impact on Shildon works, air raids, no bombs dropped, munitions at Works; [00:29:20] Italian prisoners of war at Shildon works, camp at Harpley; [00:30:50] cats at the Works, cat in most workshops, father got a kitten from the works, cat in works and home; [00:31:40] Shildon Works: flooring, enjoyment of working there, piece work, NUR involvement, leaving works; [00:34:40] life after leaving Shildon Works; good career, evening classes, Further Education teaching (1953), more money; [00:36:10] working at Shildon Works; got on well with others, did simple tasks, examples, practical jokes, Uncle worked at Works, no clocking on, never ill; [00:41:00] joiners shop work; check-in system, pay check system, few accidents, sawmill accidents, personal accident; enjoyed work; first aid system at the works, ambulance room, works’ ambulance; [00:47:45] Second World War, volunteering as a patient for first aid courses for women at the Railway Institute; [00:49:30] Railway Institute facilities; church choir member, became leader of church youth club, youth club committee meetings, no Works social activities during War, Works Band, Works cricket club; [00:54:40] Shildon works, Fire Brigade, difficulties of working in the forge, heat and dirt, welding work, lot of local boys got jobs in the Works, Works provided a lot of experiences; [00:58:10] impressions of working in Shildon Works, comparison with Darlington, paid board and lodging at home, given pocket money; [00:59:20] father buying first television; [01:01:00] Shildon works, views on what the site is now (2004); neighbours; memories of lots of men entering and leaving Works each day; [01:05:30] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, cavalcade; [01:07:10] 1930’s carnival; involved through All Saints’ Church, Sunday School, Redcar Annual outing, train travel to Redcar; [01:10:40] Shildon works lunch arrangements; came home, canteen mainly for men from Bishop Auckland, tea making, 10 am breaks; [01:13:20] social classes distinctions at the works [01:17:42] [end of interview]

Aubrey Clethero interviewed by Jo Bath

2004

Oral history interview with Joe Wild, conducted and recorded by Robert Aitchinson in 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 52 minutes. Born in Shildon mid 1920s, all life in Shildon; started work at Shildon Works in 1941, fitter, aged 21 years went into Production Section, promoted after 4 years, move to Machine Shop for rest of career, retired on Works closure in 1984 [00:02:00]; work during World War 2, moved to different sections of Production Section [00:03:00]; post War, new wagons production, 32 wagons a day completed in one Shop alone, describing different wagons, Consett Steel Works wagons trains, Darlington Rolling Mills wagons; working conditions [00:08:10]; salary, first wage 27 shillings, 47pw hours worked, good working conditions; Father, a miner until 1931, Eldon Colliery closure, unemployed until 1938, depression years [00:10:10]; family background, five children in family, two left now, eldest sister’s Belgium husband story as a pilot; life before marriage, moving to new Shildon when married for 9 years, lack of houses, dislike for New Shildon, unfriendly except miners, present house 23 years, second marriage, single life [00:16:10]; meaning of works to people; closure had large effect, entitlement to 1 year's dole money, had poultry as well, limited closure effect, wife and daughter’s home baker business [00:18:40]; 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, well organised, much appreciated by people, disappointment for lack of 175 years celebration, personal views [00:20:30]; 1975 Repair Shop closure; repair work described, 300 wagons repaired per week [00:22:00]; 1960s development of high-capacity coal wagon, still operating with higher capacity [00:23:20]; Shildon works closure, JW almost 65 years old, limited chance of further work, effect on younger people and Shildon population, lots of people left town, mines had closed; drift mine story [00:25:50]; camaraderie at the Works, good relationships except with Darlington men [00:27:10]; political details of area, strong Labour area, locally Liberal/Independent [00:28:40]; drinking habits, teetotal; strong Unions at Shildon Works, becoming Union member, management fair, low wages below average, free passes, privilege tickets [00:31:30]; public transport; better then than now, bus timings were good, father was porter on the railway in 1938, was a good train service compared to now, examples of train services [00:36:30]; decline of Shildon Works, changes in working practice [00:40:50]; canteen at Shildon Works, run by local people and then franchised out, cost [00:42:20]; leisure and entertainment in Shildon, concerts during war, organisation, cinemas, views of TV viewing now [00:44:10]; reading habits, newspapers, Northern Echo reader for 70 years, decline in quality, JW considers his lack of reading has been a limiting factor [00:46:50]; education, Shildon Council School, school life, no sports involvement [00:47:50]; getting a job, to get a job at Works father needed to work there [00:48:20]; Industries history in Shildon, Fur Factory (Astraka) built on an early industrial estate (Dabble Duck), other industries [00:51:59] [end of interview]

Joe Wild interviewed by Robert Aitchison

2004

Oral history interview with Mary Wright conducted and recorded by Jo Bath in 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 1 hour 14 minutes. [Track 01] Born in Shildon, childhood 1930s, father on the railways, leaving school at age 14, shop assistant Bishop Auckland, work at Co-op Shildon, memories of funerals; [00:07:10] Second World War, billeted soldiers, little to eat, rationing, little social life; [00:09:50] work as a school clerk at end of war; evacuees, details of work; [00:13:00] co-op work; boredom, rats at work, dislike of work, left 1945; [00:20:30] secretarial work at Printing Works; break in; [00:23:00] working for police force or at Shildon Works; interview for secretarial work for police; offered job at Shildon railway works; [00:25:40] Newton Aycliffe history, built around munitions factory; [00:26:50] factories built at Shildon; [00:28:00] working life memories; dancing, social life, Spennymoor Rink; [00:30:00] life at Shildon Works; clerical work, monotonous, family members and the War, over staffed, weather of winter 1947; [00:36:30] work in Shildon Works stores; poor quality of work, met husband, few women at Shildon Works, rats in the works, cat at home; [00:46:00] chapel; soldiers used dining room during war, dead rats' story; [00:48:50] further employment; employed 4 years at Works, married, work at Marks & Spencer [00:50:48] [end of track 01] [Track 02] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, “Shildon's finest hour”, provided Bed & Breakfast, marvellous experience, Cavalcade; [00:05:00] Shildon works, “buzzer” story, father at Works during Second World War, 12-hour shifts during war, died at aged 51 years, poor air quality in Shildon, friendly; [00:10:20] views on life now: Shildon “smarter” now, no one “hard up”, comparison with Darlington; [00:13:00] Shildon works closure; [00:13:50] Shildon Carnivals, yearly, revived now, lack of “spirit” now, photographs; [00:18:00] Geest banana factory at Shildon, story of a driver at the factory; [00:23:00] reflections on own family [00:23:41] [end of track 02] [end of interview]

Mary Wright interviewed by Jo Bath

2004

Oral history interview with Cliff Howes conducted and recorded by Jo Bath on 4 March 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. The interview includes contributions from the interviewee’s wife, Marjorie, also present during the interview. Duration: 1 hour 19 minutes. [Track 01] Born 1924 in Leeds, move to Bishop Auckland 1938, start railway career 1939, lad parcels porter, signal lamp lad [00:50:48] [end of track 01] [Track 02] 1946 back in Shildon, after serving in army during 1939-1945 Second World War, signalman training, Shildon North, Sim Pasture Junction, Darlington locomotive department; [00:02:00] incidents at Dunns, Berwickshire, express crash at Beale, railway bridges collapsing in heavy rain, Aydon; driving Mallard A4 locomotive; [00:06:10] 1952 joining British Transport Police (BTP), Darlington, 32 years BTP career, uniform, career progression and ranks occupied within BTP; [00:10:00] theft from night parcels train in York, arrest of railway staff; [00:12:43] commendations received when in post in York, catching copper thief; parcels thieves at Darlington [00:14:46] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, inspector of Shildon railway works, policing the cavalcade, BTP team dispatched for event, enjoyment attending the event; July 1975 Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother opening the Timothy Hackworth Victorian Railway Museum in Shildon, being in charge of the Royal Train, interaction with the Queen Mother, allowing for children to see the Royal Train; [00:19:15] 1975 cavalcade, crowd, safety on train journey between Darlington and Shildon, queues; [00:21:35] fatalities on railway lines around York, suicides, impact on service and vehicles; [00:26:51] accident at Darlington, train collision; crashes at Parkgate Cabin when working as signal lad; [00:31:00] night shift at Sim Pasture Junction, shunting coal wagons, runaway wagons, accidental coal wagon spill; [00:32:38] arresting delivery driver stealing parcels; [00:35:56] (contribution from Marjorie) how busy ticket office was during Second World War, special train from Gateshead for Shildon railway works; [00:39:38] (contribution from Marjorie) work at ticket office, communicating with Sim Pasture signal box about livestock on the line, relationship with Shildon works, privilege passes, holidays, Saturdays, travel passes; [00:42:15] (back to Cliff) BTP experience, anecdote taking statement from driver after accident with a van; [00:43:47] arrests at Shildon works, brass theft, wagons bearings, working with the works security and fire officer (Jack Watson), confronting thief; [00:46:50] many thefts at Shildon works, night watch for thieves, chasing thieves; [00:49:43] other thefts after lines closure; [00:54:15] timber theft, Sim Pasture; [00:56:16] arrest of wagon brass thief, Shildon; [00:58:40] making model railway; [01:00:37] work at Shildon North cabin, safety issues Shildon tunnel, anti-theft measures for coal; [01:04:00] Alan Pierce, making models; [01:07:38] former stables near museum; Locomotion museum development; Shildon gasworks, Brusselton reservoir; [01:11:16] (Cliff and Marjorie) Timothy Hackworth; [01:12:26] accidents and deaths at Shildon works; [01:14:00] extreme weather, snow in winter 1947, snow in 1943 [01:17:54] [end of track 02] [end of interview]

Cliff Howes interviewed by Jo Bath

2004-03-04

Oral history interview with Jane Hackworth-Young conducted and recorded by Jo Bath in 2004, as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 49 minutes. Whereabouts before moving to Northern England, family roots, father was an engineer; great, great granddaughter of Timothy Hackworth, descended from Hackworth’s youngest daughter Jane Hackworth, who married Robert Young, who helped Hackworth run the Stockton and Darlington Railway, father was a civil, mechanical and electrical engineer, family methodist background; [00:02:40] father’s efforts to get Hackworth recognised; Robert Young’s book, Hackworth papers, 1972 Shildon visit, Hackworth’s house, Hackworth statue, lack of Hackworth recognition; Smile’s book on Robert Stephenson, Wylam locomotives; father's lobbying to BBC and Northern Echo; [00:07:20] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, Shildon Town Council request for documentation to help preparations, working with her father to prepare documentation; [00:09:30] further efforts to get Hackworth recognised; support from Michael Kirby, Hackworth buildings and other relics, Hackworth family background, further lobbying, meeting with Shildon Town Council, September 1974 renovation of Hackworth’s house started, gathering of Hackworth documentation; [00:17:00] Robert Young’s book Timothy Hackworth and the Locomotive; [00:17:50] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, Hackworth Museum opening by Queen Mother (17th July 1975), Cavalcade (31st August 1975); [00:19:00] Hackworth Museum, Hackworth House, restored Soho Shed; Sans Pareil replica, Shildon railway works; summer 1980 running of Sans Pareil, Rocket and the Novelty, lack of money and expertise from Sedgefield Council to run museum, restoration of coal manager’s building; [00:23:30] 1984 closure of Shildon Works, impact on Shildon, impact on Hackworth Museum, Walter Nunn; [00:24:50] Hackworth Society (May,1976), activities; [00:25:30] Hackworth Museum, decline, Bowes Museum support, National Railway Museum arrival, opening Locomotion, 2004; personal reflections on museum 1975-2004, possible further developments; [00:28:00] Timothy Hackworth, involvement in Stockton and Darlington railway opening 1825, began own works 1830; [00:29:30] Hackworth Museum; 11th July 1975 opening by Her Majesty the Queen Mother, details of Hackworth-Young family in attendance, details of opening; [00:32:10] cavalcade 1975; [00:35:40] father’s research; blast pipe, importance of “Royal George”; [00:37:00] own involvement with Sans Pareil locomotive replica, Rainhill trials in Wales in 2002; personal views differences between Sans Pareil and Rocket locomotives; [00:39:20] personal views on early locomotive developments, element of luck, Stephenson-Hackworth rivalry; [00:40:00] Sans Pareil history, snow plough, restoration by John Hick in 1864, Rocket and Sans Pareil at the Science Museum, then National Railway Museum, now (2004) coming to Shildon, importance of having historical locomotives in London; [00:42:00] local awareness of Hackworth; growth helped by involvement of local schools, museum visits; NRM at Shildon, Locomotion museum; York and Shildon to complement each other, Hackworth to be an integral part, social side important; [00:45:00] 1975 Cavalcade franking stamp; [00:45:30] Locomotion, Hackworth involvement in rebuild, Hackworth wheels; [00:47:20] work on Hackwork archive [00:49:39] [end of interview]

Jane Hackworth-Young interviewed by Jo Bath

2004

Oral history interview with Lesley Wilson conducted by Jo Bath on 24 March 2004 as part of the Time Tracks oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 29 minutes. [Track 01] Born in Shildon, family background, grand-father worked at Shildon railway works, father’s bricklayer, education, being a pupil and now (2004) teacher at Timothy Hackworth school; 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, Shildon Wesleyan Youth Club, Gerody’s Pinker group, Iron Road song for anniversary, local singing performances, studio recording of Iron Road, relationship with group members now; performing on day of cavalcade, Cleaveland radio broadcast, event security; [00:05:46] Iron Road song played at opening the Timothy Hackworth Victorian Railway Museum in Shildon by Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, 1975; Iron Road disc record; cavalcade event, crowds, Shildon people offering bed and breakfast, static engines display, Shildon works; [00:09:00] Shildon works visit as a child, noises, meeting her grandad when he finished work; [00:11:00] parents, father’s choice to not work for Shildon works; school, children of Shildon works workers had extra holiday; 1975, youth group, helping churches, special services, churches offered catering and sleeping arrangements for visitors to 1975 celebrations, Timothy Hackworth memorabilia [00:14:07] [end of track 01] [Track 02] teaching trip to India, bringing posters about Timothy Hackworth; childhood, learning about Timothy Hackworth; teaching about him at Timothy Hackworth school now (2004); group singing performance for Thimothy Hackworth museum opening 1975; reflecting on Iron Road song, performing at Royal Albert Hall in London; childhood, youth group, churches activities; [00:05:38] Shildon now (2004), hope with new museum (Locomotion), local community involved with local heritage, new housing; younger generations rarely coming back to Shildon after university, different sense of community in Shildon compared to childhood; [00:08:00] Shildon railway works closure, marches against closure, impact of closure, people moved to Doncaster and Eastleigh, impact on community; starting career with office work, becoming a teacher after having a family; 1975 celebrations, excitement for the events and having a lot of people visiting; [00:12:00] childhood, children of parents working at Geist banana factory bringing insects at school; hot summers in childhood, playing on grass bank with friends [00:15:02] [end of track 02] [end of interview]

Lesley Wilson interviewed by Jo Bath

2004-03-24

Oral history interview with Olive Connor, conducted and recorded by Jo Bath in 2004, as part of the Time Track oral history collecting initiative. Duration: 1 hour 3 minutes. Childhood, born in New Shildon in 1921, school in Shildon; Work, farm work in Piercebridge, return to Shildon where remained; [00:02:15] 1926 General Strike, father’s work during strike as boiler man, breaking wagons, tiredness; [00:05:10] father’s work in wheel gang, incident story; [00:06:50] memories of Shildon Works men; walking speed, meeting father at Works gate, streets of houses round the Works; [00:09:00] move to British Rail house; house description, questions why demolished?; [00:10:00] mother and fortune tellers, fortune teller’s house, weekly visit; [00:12:30] summer holiday, Piercebridge Farm; food eaten in childhood, ate well, father had a garden and hens; [00:14:10] work following farm work; live-in house maid for dentist with 4 children, then housekeeper (8 years), married dentist at age 24; [00:16:00] married life for 27 years, age difference; Second World War, called to help, excused her for childcare purposes, children’s life details; having a secret wedding; [00:20:40] father, member of Working Men’s Club, Sunday School teacher, pigeon fancier, father singing; [00:22:50] eldest brother electrician at Shildon Shops, started in “dipping shed”, then office work, night school leading to becoming an electrician; [00:24:00] other brother failed to get into Works, became a plumber, Navy in Second World War, post war worked at Darlington Rolling Mills until retirement; [00:26:00] further household details when married, large house, garden, livestock, fruit trees; [00:27:00] Second World War, almost self-sufficient, Shildon plane crash, air raid shelter, tunnel under house; [00:31:10] pits in Shildon, only work choice was pits or Shildon Shops; [00:32:10] work for women, little except housework, few women worked until WWII, work at the church; [00:33:20] sewing, sewing class, sewing for four children, knitting during the war; [00:36:30] Health Care memories; Senna Pod “memories”, generally healthy family, whooping cough, Hannah Hauxwell story; [00:41:00] dental work experience, helped in 1960’s, paperwork, workshop, surgery; [00:43:10] activities in spare time, church group, little social life, group day trips; [00:45:00] 1975 celebrations, Stockton and Darlington 150th anniversary, cavalcade, watched from street, Locomotion building; [00:48:50] visits to Shildon Railway Works open days; 1927 walking through Royal Train, visit to Locomotion (pre-opening), no memories of 1950 anniversary; [00:52:40] Shildon Agricultural Show, large famous event, lots of visitors; [00:53:30] Shildon Carnival, jazz bands, decline; [00:54:30] crafting, lots of brass in Shildon, made in Shildon Shops, mat making; [00:59:00] extreme weather, heavy snow events [01:03:22] [end of interview]

Olive Connor interview by Jo Bath

2004